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9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Onstein - NED vs Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED N Drijver E Helness N Nunes E Muller S Brink W Helgemo S Fantoni W De Wijs Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W 4♥ E 4 420 4♥ E 4 420 4♥ E 5 450 4♥ E 5 450 4♠ S 4 420 4♠ S 4 420 6♥ N 1 100 5♥ N 5 650 3N W 3 400 3N W 3 400 3♦x E 2 500 2♦x E 1 200 3♦ E 4 130 3♦ E 3 110 2♦ N 2 90 2N N 3 150 2♠ S 3 140 2N N 2 120 4♠ N 4 620 4♠ N 4 620 2♦ W 1 50 2♣ W 1 50 3N S 5 660 3N S 1 100 IMPs - 13 7 - 1 6 1 13 27 14 IMPs Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA This segment 27 14 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total 27 14 -1- References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 1 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 0 Angelini - ITA 0 E 4 420 E 4 420 1 2 ♠K 7 2 3-2 Q10 2 1-0 853 4 ♣ K10 9 3 2 ♠6 4 N ♠ AQ85 3 74 A86532 W E KQ J 42 A6 S ♣A Q J 5 ♣ ♠ J10 9 10 10 K J9 11 10 9 7 12 ♣8 7 6 4 9 920 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p 1 p 2♠ p 3♠ p p W: Helgemo W © E: Helness S p p p p ¨ © #1 S::§8,Q,K,©2 #2 E::©A,9,4,T #3 E::©3,J,7,Q #4 N::ª7,8,, MolvaM: start..¨Q..©6..©J..♣9..¨K..♠K..♠9.. ♣2..©T fabsayc: good day everybody..p..1©..p..2¨..p..2 2 2N 4 ♠..p..2N..p..3♠ MolvaM: hi ralfwil: Good Morning Martin MolvaM : live izmir http://www.ustream.tv/ channel/champions-cup-2010..p ralfwil: this lead will makr 11 tricks easy, when are 3-2..4 ..p..p..p..♣8..♣Q..♣K.. 2 h bertens: after ace of ha and a heart for north he will probably duck the spade return and makes only 10 tricks.. A.. 9.. 4.. T.. 3.. J ralfwil: Why? 10 tricks with 4-2 and 11 with 3-3.. 7.. Q..♠7 fabsayc: does he not have to finesse?..♠8 © © © © © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 1 © © this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 0 Onstein - NED 0 E 4 420 E 4 420 1 2 ♠K 7 2 3-2 Q10 2 1-0 853 4 ♣ K10 9 3 2 ♠6 4 N ♠ AQ85 3 74 A86532 W E KQ J 42 A6 S ♣A Q J 5 ♣ ♠ J10 9 10 10 K J9 11 10 9 7 12 ♣8 7 6 4 9 920 N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E p 1♣ p 4 p W: De Wijs W ¨ S p p © 3 p § © E: Muller © #1 S:: 4,Q,K, 3 #3 E:: 5,J,7,Q © ª #2 E:: A,9,4,T #4 N:: 2,8,9,4 vugraphzus: hi all Gerben42: good morning! EW play relay precision..p..1 ♣!..p..3¨!..p vugraphzus: Good morning Gerben42: so 3 shows a positive with 2254 vugraphzus: herkese merhaba..4 ..p..p..p yusufb: herkese merhaba..♣4 Gerben42: good breaks let this make Gerben42: +1 even Gerben42: i guess I would play ♣Q as it develops ¨ © a 2nd ♣ trick to discard ♠ on 2celik1: selamlar..♣Q..♣K.. 3 yusufb: 12 bordluk 4 devrenin 2 devresindeyiz funtay: slm Kenan,Yusuf ve Salim yusufb: slmmm.. A.. 9.. 4 2celik1: hosgeldin Tayfun.. T vugraphzus: slm hoˆ geldin Tayfun abi champ i: selamlar.. 5 funtay: slm champ i: iyi yerde durdular.. J murat: Ege Palas’dan yeniden selamlar © © © © © © © -2- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) jbgood: mest sannsynlig 3 jbgood: sry atalok: slmlar ˆ§ok fark yemiˆ iz hadin bi el atalˆ ‰mda kapatalˆ‰m biraz imp_jan: Morning folks.. 7.. Q..♠2 imp_jan: just met Maurizio di Sacco here at the venue..♠8 Gerben42: good morning Jan..♠9..♠4 imp_jan: he is desperate imp_jan: Muller and Fantoni at the same table Gerben42: :) © © Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 2 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 0 Angelini - ITA 0 E 5 450 E 5 450 2 2 ♠Q3 3 87 2 5 642 5 ♣A97432 ♠ A10 8 4 N ♠K 7 2 K9643 A J10 2 W E A87 J10 S ♣J ♣K Q 8 6 ♠J965 10 10 Q5 11 KQ95 3 7 ♣10 5 8 450 W: Helgemo W 3♣ 4♣ p ¨ © #1 S:: K,A,6,T #3 E:: J,Q,K,8 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1N p 3 p 4 p E: Helness S p p p © © © § #2 W:: 3,7,A,5 #4 W:: J,A,, fabsayc: oh right can just cover is safest MolvaM: brink passed helgemo thinks now..1N MolvaM: helness explained 3c as gf and short..p..3 ♣! fabsayc: singleton showing i believe -3- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 2 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 0 Onstein - NED 0 E 5 450 E 5 450 2 2 ♠Q3 3 87 2 5 642 5 ♣A97432 ♠ A10 8 4 N ♠K 7 2 K9643 A J10 2 W E A87 J10 S ♣J ♣K Q 8 6 ♠J965 10 10 Q5 11 KQ95 3 7 ♣10 5 8 450 W: De Wijs W 2♣ 4 © #1 S::¨K,A,6,T #3 E::©2,Q,K,8 N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E 1N p 2 p p E: Muller S p p p © © § #2 W:: 3,7,A,5 #4 W:: J,A,6,5 © ©..p..p..p..¨K..¨A..¨6..¨T..©3..©7..©A..© 5..©J..©Q..©K..©8..♣J..♣A vugraphzus: bu boardla ilgili..p..3 ..p..4♣..p..4 hobakan: yani biz oldu tamam diyelim.. olursa olur olmazsa yenisine bakarˆ‰z:) atalok: rakibin biri el aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r son 2 elde atalok: digeride ˆ§akmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r atalok: son 3 veya murat: italyanlar ˆ u an biraz masayˆ‰ gekiyor murat: geriyor murat : bizimkilerin konvansiyon kartˆ‰nda yeterli aˆ§ˆ‰klama yok hobakan : eˆ er battˆ‰ yazˆ‰ldˆ‰ysa neyin gerginliˆ i anlayamadˆ‰m murat: ataˆ ˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tirmek istiyorlar atalok: fantoni ben karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmazdˆ‰m der hemen hobakan: demek kaˆ ˆ‰t tam olsa iyicene cˆ‰ ngar ˆ§ˆ‰kacakmˆ‰ˆ :) vahaboglu: hakem avantaja bˆ‰rakmadˆ‰ mˆ ‰ murat: ˆ imdi 4piki yapmˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ diye garip bir ˆ ikayette bulunuyorlar murat: masaya Rahmi geldi :) hobakan: hakkaten garip murat: Salvo’nun 3♣’si kˆ¶rler demekmiˆ yakop: zaten atak deˆ iˆ se de batmaz kart ne cˆ‰ karsa cˆ‰ksˆ‰n hobakan: aaaa ˆ¶le mi ismail? hiˆ§ bakmadˆ‰k biz ona hobakan: yani ben ..:) tez: selamlar tez: iyi akˆ amlar imp_jan: bound to be ultra slow session Gerben42: maybe it will be easy hands imp_jan: anyhow murat: ˆ zmir’den herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n..1N 2celik1: potansiyel 2 imp gelebilir Izmir Buyuksehir Takimina..p yusufb: selam tezcan hoˆ geldin hobakan: gˆ…naydˆ‰nnnn efem:):):)..2♣ arigun: herkese gunaydin champ i: yeni kadro deˆ iˆ kliˆ i var takˆ‰mda champ i: slm tez hoˆ geldin..p atalok: gnydˆ‰nn..2 imp_jan: check for great stories, bulletins, hands, pics hobakan: sˆ…leyman abi de gelmiˆ valla saˆ olsun:):)..p murat: Salvo’nun 20, Fantoni’nin 10cm uzaˆ ˆ‰ ndayˆ‰m :) yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn herkese vugraphzus: Gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese hobakan: sabahˆ‰n bu saaatinde:) arigun: tarafmiyiz murat :)..4 ..p yusufb: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za baˆ arˆ‰lar murat: asla :) phantoma: anlasamadilar galiba murat: 1♣’i kuvvetli oynuyorlar tez: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla ˆ lem gˆ¶rmeyen ellerle 4 majˆ¶rˆ… gˆ¶nderiyorlar umut varsa atalok: 5 imp geldi sonra gerisini bekliyozz atalok: elden alˆ‰p karo oynuyacak Gerben42: at least short bidding again hobakan: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za bol ˆ ans... sekans atladˆ‰k sanˆ‰rˆ‰m..p murat: mixed raise sandˆ‰m dedi Kubaˆ§ hobakan: ama kaˆ ˆ‰tlar olsun diye gelmiˆ arigun: atagindan sonra cok love kurtarir 2celik1: selam Tezcan hosgeldin..p imp_jan: http://www.eurobridge.org/index2.html and www.bridgetopics.com Gerben42: can discard 2♠ on ♣ even on a © © ¨ ¨ -4- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) lead so this shouldnt be TOO long tez: batˆ‰yor bakalˆ‰m nolacak.. K tez: izmirdeyim.kulupte bugun seminer vardˆ‰ ..seminer yerine vugraf seyrediyorlarmˆ‰ˆ ..onlara el sallˆ‰yorum:).. A.. 6.. T.. 3 atalok: cl ruayˆ‰ at nezihh murat: Fantoni bayaˆ ˆ‰ bi gerildi.. 7 tez: asˆ‰ alˆ‰p almamasˆ‰ farketmiyor yusufb: C A cizebilir salvo.. A.. 5.. 2 yusufb: egrisi dogrusuna geldi:).. Q atalok: 3 cl neymiˆ ?.. K arigun: 10 love olacak galiba.. 8..♣J funtay: slm Tez tez: ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰ iyi deˆ ildi tez: bu en iyi defans atalok: muhtemel battˆ‰ tez: havaya ˆ§akmak zorunda kalacaktˆ‰ alˆ‰cˆ ‰ kozla murat: kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§aktˆ‰rmaya giderken batacak sanki ˆ imdi atalok: ˆ efim yaparsa 12 alˆ‰rˆ‰z tez: ˆ efim yapamaz yaptˆ‰rˆ‰rlarsa ancak:)..♣ A atalok: belki sp ruya gider d..♣6 funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 canli izlemek iˆ§in..♣5 Gerben42: claim time sarkar_suk: yes ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 3 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 0 Angelini - ITA 0 S 4 420 S 4 420 3 7 ♠A 7 6 4 10 A 5 8 10 8 7 5 3 3 ♣Q 8 5 ♠10 N ♠8 2 K63 J10 8 7 5 W E AJ9 K64 S ♣ A K10 7 4 3 ♣9 6 2 ♠KQ J 953 6 3 Q9 42 8 Q2 5 ♣J 10 -200 W N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 2♣ p 2N p W: Helgemo § ¨ ¨ p p E: Helness S 1♠ 4♠ ª ª § ª #1 W:: A,5,9,J #2 W:: T,4,8,J #3 S:: Q,9,3,K #4 E:: 2,Q, 3, 6 #5 S:: 2,J,5,4 fabsayc: most of top experts play 2NT as a spade raise here, but may guarantee only 3 spades, with 3♣ cue for four..1♠..2♣..2N!..p..4♠..p..p..p..♣ A fabsayc: others may show different strengths with the two bids i mentioned..♣5..♣9..♣J..♠T -5- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 3 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 0 Onstein - NED 0 S 4 420 S 4 420 3 7 ♠A 7 6 4 10 A 5 8 10 8 7 5 3 3 ♣Q 8 5 ♠10 N ♠8 2 K63 J10 8 7 5 W E AJ9 K64 S ♣ A K10 7 4 3 ♣9 6 2 ♠KQ J 953 6 3 Q9 42 8 Q2 5 ♣J 10 -200 N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E W: De Wijs W 2♣ p p p p 2 4♠ § ¨ ¨ ª ¨ ¨ #1 W:: A,5,9,J #3 N:: 3,6,Q,A #5 E:: 4, Q, J,5 E: Muller S p X 3♠ p p 3♣ p © ¨ ª #2 W:: 6,A,8,2 #4 W:: 9,T,K,2 #6 S:: K,T,4,2 yusufb: aslˆ‰nda nezih yavaˆ ve dikkatli oynar ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ˆ asˆ‰rdˆ‰m..♠4..♠8..♠J.. Q.. 9.. 3.. K.. ♠2..♠Q..♣3..♠6.. 2.. J.. 5.. 4 murat: masada bi konuˆ ma geˆ§iyor ˆ u an murat: direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ rˆ‰ldˆ‰ hobakan: ufak bir noktaya aˆ§ˆ‰klˆ‰k getireyim kendi adˆ‰ma:) hobakan: burada yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ ey yorum ama iˆ§erisinde taraftarlˆ‰k da var:) murat: http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img00045201011131625.jpg / Gerben42: this probably wont swing a lot either hobakan: ama tˆ…m bunlar 4 pik TAM durumunda tartˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰lmasˆ‰ gereken hususlar idi..p 2celik1: wd Salvador Assael tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ bulunabilecek mi?..2♣!..p..p tez: her masada 6♠ oynanacak.. Gerben42: 2♣ = 11-15 with ♣ ¨ atalok: 7 nt gelinirmi?..p tez: 3nt ye geleceˆ iz hobakan: normal atak Dam tez: gˆ…neyin eliyle aˆ§ˆ‰lmazsa kuzey oynayacak.o © zaman kabak hobakan: bir ˆ ekilde Bˆ…lent mˆ…dahil olmalˆ ‰ :) atalok: nafiz abilerde oynar ama kuzeyden yusufb: bence gelinir..2 yakop: 7 karonun ˆ ansˆ‰ cok yˆ…ksek 7 nt de oluyo bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mla hobakan: gelinir dicez tabi.. yusufb: 7 yada 7nt oynicaklar murat: Nunes sakinledi bˆ…lten okuyor hobakan: ˆ u an 7d dersek kˆ¶r kupu yeriz tez: yapmasˆ‰ zor champ i: 4 cl deni p x gelirse 6 yada gidilmez atalok: guneyin eliyle aˆ§maz tez: gˆ…neyden oynuyor nafiz..3♣ yusufb: cˆ‰kmayabilir ..3♠ yakop: ˆ ansˆ‰ yˆ…ksek dedim olur deˆ il tabii ki 7 nt oynasˆ‰nlar isterim hobakan: aynen aynen:) atalok : belki sp 10 ˆ§ˆ‰kar meraklˆ‰dˆ‰r bunlar Gerben42: dbl is an interesting choice - will he try to recover with 3♠ now? sarkar_suk: they r playing power prec? yusufb: ama yapˆ‰labilir..p tez: dam atak edildi.yaptˆ‰k atalok: sen 2 sinidemi seyrediyon tez? Gerben42: Tarzan precision hobakan: ben de 7 demeyelim diyorum..4♠ hobakan: :) tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ avantaj ama yinede batar Gerben42: its with lots of relay..p sarkar_suk: thx gerben..p hobakan: as sorulamadˆ‰..p tez: ˆ imdi kubac ♣ atak ederse batacak tez: zor champ i: h dam klasik atak cl zor arigun: benim anlamadigim perde de fantoni ve salvo birbirini goruyor atak ederken fantoniye dogru alert gelmedi mi..♣A murat: edildi Cengiz Abi. kˆ‰sacasˆ‰ konvansiyon kartlarˆ‰ yetersiz ve farklˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰klamalarda bulundular diye bir ˆ ikayette bulundular yusufb : onlar aglˆ‰cak oyle yada boyle bi onemi yokki yakop: aˆ larken de italyan yapˆ‰yolar mˆ‰ murat:) yusufb: bu konuˆ mada hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitti 4 cue ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ -6- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) et diyo nezih yusufb: hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitmedi murat: :) arasˆ‰ra yusufb: salvo etmeli tez: yu bˆ‰rakacak atalok: imkansˆ‰z tez: atak edilsin diye verilmiˆ kartlar murat: Bˆ…lent’in suratˆ‰ ekˆ idi :) tez: kuzey cue etse ♣ ile kontr atsa bulent aslan...tek ˆ art hobakan: hiˆ§ kc yok zannetti Nezih..♣5 tez: ben olsam 3♣ derdim aslanˆ‰n eliyle funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 webcam canli tez: ♠ gelmezse ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z var..♣9 champ i: sp apel verdi..♣J tez: deer miˆ im:) Gerben42: Tarzan was played by Johnny Weissmuller what’s in a name tez: ♠ gelmeseydi yatˆ‰r kaldˆ‰r ˆ§ok iˆ i vardˆ ‰ ama yapardˆ‰.. 6.. A Gerben42: behave so no problem here.. 8.. 2.. 3.. 6.. Q.. A sarkar_suk: yes card lies friendly Gerben42: i dont think they care about making the last trick with 7.. 9 tez: 8li ˆ§akmasˆ‰ iyi.. T tez: yoksa kozda alamˆ‰yorlardˆ‰.. K.. 2.. 4..♠Q.. J.. 5..♠K atalok: 13 verebiliriz 16 alabiliriz..♠T yusufb: bu borddan malesef sayˆ‰ veririz funtay: su anda webcamda gˆ¶rˆ…nenler Nezih Kubac /kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ formali ve Geir Helgamo.. ♠4 ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 6 c 5 © © 4 4 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 0 Angelini - ITA 13 13 N -1 100 N 5 650 10 ♠A 6 AK J 9 6 3 2 11 9 Q9 11 ♣ J10 6 ♠10 5 3 2 N ♠Q 8 7 6 4 4 10 7 5 W E 7643 AK J S ♣9 8 5 4 ♣7 2 ♠K J 9 0 7 Q8 0 10 8 5 2 4 ♣AK Q 3 0 650 W: Helgemo W p 3♠ p p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1 1♠ 4 p 5 p p p S X 4N 6 © © ¨ ¨ #1 E:: K,2,7,Q © ¨ #2 E:: A,5,3,9 fabsayc: fantoni-nunes cue bid and identified the lack of a diamond control to stop at 5 level..♠ 2..p..1 ..1♠.. ..3♠..pree fabsayc: here it may not be so easy..4 ..p control ralfwil: 5♣ from S and 5 - no fabsayc: yes but there is issue of spade controls also..4N..p ralfwil: S has at least a second control in ♠ with 5♣..5 ..p..6 h bertens: not that simple , after 5cl he will bid 5d to show a spade control i think..p..p..p fabsayc: full credit to HH for making this tough.. 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A.. 5.. 3 © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ -7- E: Helness ¨ © 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 6 c 5 4 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 13 13 Onstein - NED 0 N -1 100 N 5 650 © © 4 10 ♠A 6 AK J 9 6 3 2 11 9 Q9 11 ♣ J10 6 ♠10 5 3 2 N ♠Q 8 7 6 4 4 10 7 5 W E 7643 AK J S ♣9 8 5 4 ♣7 2 ♠K J 9 0 7 Q8 0 10 8 5 2 4 ♣AK Q 3 0 650 W: De Wijs W p p p p p N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E 1 p 2 p 3 p 4♠ p p p E: Muller S 2♣ 2N 3♠ 5 © © © ¨ © ¨ #1 E:: A,2,3,9 #2 E:: K,5,4,Q atalok : bence 16 alma ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z daha ¨ yuksek.. 9 Gerben42: an almost-slam here Gerben42: 1 = forcing..p..1 ! tez: ♣ empas geˆ§miyor .. empas geˆ§miyor..p atalok: 2cl sonra 3 cl ˆ eklinde durulabilir..2♣!..p Gerben42: 2♣ = at least one of ♣, balanced, fit hobakan: :):) ..2 tez: 3nt iyi yer tez: bakalˆ‰m gelecek miyiz atalok: 1nt?..p tez: her iki masada da batacak zonlar..az batan kazanˆ‰r atalok: minoredemi forsing? hobakan: en yakˆ‰n anter champ i: kenan 1 nt alert ne edildi murat: angelini forcing dedi sanki hobakan: sorulmamˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰tˆ‰r muhtemelen ama biz ˆ§ok merak ettik bi zahmet sorsana Murat © ¨ © © eccone: ♣ ler murat: angelini sormadan aˆ§ˆ‰klama yapˆ‰yo zaten saˆ olsun :) tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar..1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakiler limit aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ .kuvvetli olamaz vugraphzus: Murat soruyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m eccone: yada rˆ¶le olabilir belki champ i: 9-11 cller galiba tez: 2♣ 2 ya transfer..sonra 2 nt diyerek davet edecek murat: Fantoni sorular sordu tez: zorlu bu elle daveti kabul eder sanˆ‰rˆ‰m champ i: 4 h oluyor 3 nt batˆ‰yor..2N!..p murat: 1NT GF dendi ˆ imdi murat: fakat 2dia minimummuˆ eccone: ˆ imdi ? murat: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla Boye pas dedi..3 ! murat: Boye ne diyeceˆ imi bilemedim pas dedim diyor hobakan: baˆ larˆ‰m Boye iˆ e ben yaa hobakan: 3 ♣ desin 5 ♣ desin:) champ i: 5 karoda desinler murat: Angelini: niye 2tref degil murat: Boye: Bu el uygun deˆ iˆ murat: *deˆ il atalok: saˆ§maladˆ‰lar kazandˆ‰lar kˆ‰sa ozet bu bence murat: ˆ imdilik bˆ…tˆ…n dedikodu bu kadar :) champ i: kesinlikle hobakan: bu da uyar mˆ‰? tez: 3 nt yi yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰k diˆ er masada ..p..3♠! ..p tez: ˆ§ok farketti tez: doˆ ru ♠ dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…de bulmuˆ tuk hobakan: ufak bir not verelim.. Milli takˆ‰mda kim deˆ iˆ irse deˆ iˆ sin 2000 li yˆ‰llarˆ‰n baˆ ˆ ‰ndan beri deˆ iˆ meyen tek oyuncu Brogeland tez: 1 iˆ§eri muhtemel hobakan: big bradˆ‰r 200 diyor tez: 3 nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yordu..dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla sayˆ ‰ kaybedebiliriz hobakan: 2 p-p- gelince 3 da bir alternetif olabilir miydi diye ......4♠ Gerben42 : now Fantoni must bid 5 as he knows no control..p tez: yorum yapsam tutuklanˆ‰rˆ‰m.onun iˆ§in susmak en iyisi bu elle ilgili..5 hobakan: Helgamo nun oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zamanlarda da , dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ unu kazandˆ‰klarˆ‰ nda da murat: Bˆ…lent biraz daha aˆ§ˆ‰klama aldˆ‰ Angelini’den ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © -8- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) tez: apel defosta anlaˆ amadˆ‰lar..p tez: ♠ 9 lu saˆ kalˆ‰yor 2celik1 : eyvah eyvah hem 3nt olmus hem de © burada 4 deklare edildi..p funtay: Bilmiyenler icin: asagida yer alan Gˆ B yazisini tiklayip en alttaki double dummy analizleri secenegini tiklarsaniz el hakkinda olup olmayacaˆ i bilgi veriyor program..p.. A.. 2.. 3.. 9.. K hobakan : belki bizimkiler hiˆ§ mˆ…dahale etmezse Sˆ…leymanˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi 16 da alˆ‰r ˆ‰z yani:).. 5.. 4 tez: onada bˆ…yˆ…k abi diyoruz biz..hiˆ§ hata yapmaz ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 5 5 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 0 Angelini - ITA 13 W 3 400 W 3 400 4 ♠A 8 6 5 4 9765 6 3 Q7 2 3 ♣8 7 ♠Q 9 4 N ♠ J10 3 K10 A32 W E AK 4 3 J96 S ♣ A10 5 2 ♣K Q 6 4 ♠K 7 2 9 8-9 QJ84 7 10 8 5 10 ♣J93 10 400 W: Helgemo W 1N p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p p p 3N p ª5,3,K,4 §2,8,Q,9 §4,J,A,©7 ¨A,2,6,5 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 E:: #7 W:: E: Helness S p p ª7,Q,6,T §K,3,5,7 §T,©6,§6,©4 ¨K,7,9,8 #2 S:: #4 E:: #6 W:: #8 W:: h bertens: What a simple one spade overcall can ¨ do. In closed room no overcall, .. Q..p..p..p fabsayc: heart lead much more troublesome..1N..p..3N..p..p..p.. ♠5 h bertens: As the cards are he can not go wrong on any lead. After a heart lead he can play a diamond or set up a spade trick..♠3..♠K..♠4..♠ 7..♠Q..♠6..♠T..♣2..♣8..♣Q..♣9..♣K..♣3 -9- 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 5 5 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 13 Onstein - NED 0 W 3 400 W 3 400 4 ♠A 8 6 5 4 9765 6 3 Q7 2 3 ♣8 7 ♠Q 9 4 N ♠ J10 3 K10 A32 W E AK 4 3 J96 S ♣ A10 5 2 ♣K Q 6 4 ♠K 7 2 9 8-9 QJ84 7 10 8 5 10 ♣J93 10 400 W: De Wijs W N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E p p p 2 p p E: Muller ¨ 1♣ 3N ª § § © ª © ¨ ¨© ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ S p p p ª § § © § © ª © ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ #1 N:: 6,J,K,9 #2 S:: 7,Q,5,3 #3 W:: 5,7,K,9 #4 E:: Q,3,2,8 #5 E:: 4,J,A, 5 #6 W:: T, 6, 6, 4 #7 W:: 4,A,T,2 #8 N:: 8, 2, 8,4 #9 N:: 9,3,J,K #10 W:: A,2,6,5 #11 W:: K,7,9,T #12 W:: T,7,A,8 #13 E:: J, Q, 3,Q tez: kuzey pas derdi..uˆ§ardˆ‰ ler..♣5..♣7.. ♣4..♣J..♣A.. 7..♣T.. 6..♣6.. 4.. A.. 2.. 6.. 5.. K.. 7.. 9.. 8 champ i: angelinin aˆ§ˆ‰p 2 karoda kalˆ‰nan bir sistem yoktur herhalde champ i: maˆ§tan sonra yani 2celik1: 4 boardu iceride 2♠ oynanmis..p..p vugraphzus: ben siliyorum maˆ§ bitince:) Gerben42: someone heat up the dealer pls hobakan: egale olmasˆ‰nˆ‰ umduˆ umuz elden de 5 kaybederek geri dˆ…ˆ tˆ…k bu devrede de...p hobakan: kenan da olmasa:) champ i: kenan sorarsada iyi ˆ eyler yazdlar de tez: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives /vugraph_archives.php buradanda kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰z yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ izleyebilirsiniz © funtay : rakip takima yenilen oyuncularimiza hicbir sey demeyiz hatta kutlariz Walddk4: Welcome to Lars Andersson..1♣!..p tez: zorlu demek istemiˆ tim champ i: 6 h var cl doˆ ru empasa hobakan: 3 NT funtay : bu takim Dˆ…nyada olusabilecek en kuvvetli bir iki takimdan biri vugraphzus: welcome and hi all..2 ! hobakan: tutmuyorum kˆ¶rˆ… demek..p Gerben42: 1♣ strong 2 balanced 3NT me too? :) Walddk4 : There is a typo in North’s name, operator, Sylvan..3N vugraphzus: ok Walddk4: you reversed the L and Y Walddk4: And the Icelanders have an i not the Turkish y tez: 3nt fitini reddediyor murat: 2 = 10-12p 5+ 2celik1: iceride 6♣ denildi..p bt: thx roland i will be here a while only..p Walddk4: Sigurjonsson Ingimarsson Walddk4: Thanks vugraphzus: np sry about that ..p Walddk4: np..♠6 hobakan: 10-13 diyolardˆ‰ serhat: 6C olmaz pik cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa, sanirim.. ♠J tez: 4 transferi al yoksa ateˆ ederim demek bt: this is an ok game that does not make..♠K..♠ 9 champ i: 3 nolu board 6 nt de durdular atalok: gitti bizim 16 champ i: gˆ¶ksu multy aˆ§tˆ‰ 1.den yusufb: nt oynadˆ‰lar giden 13 olcaktˆ‰ Gerben42: on a lead you can play to J for your 9th trick hobakan: :)..♠7..♠Q 2celik1: maalesef 6♣ cok zor hale geldi ..♠5..♠ 3..♣5..♣7..♣K..♣9..♣Q tez: angelini takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonlu ˆ u toplamˆ‰ 30 un ˆ…zerindedir sanˆ‰yorum vugraphzus: -3 diye claim etti..♣3 2celik1: hic bir halukarda olmaz artik 6♣..♣2..♣ 8..♣4 atalok: 12 elden 4 devre oynancak maˆ§..♣J yusufb: bundan sonraki devreler 14:00 16:00 18: 00 da..♣A.. 5 vugraphzus: kˆ‰sa bir ara verildi..♣T.. 6..♣ 6.. 4..♠4..♠A..♠T..♠2..♠8.. 2 champ i: bu devre daha kˆ¶tˆ… baˆ ladˆ‰k ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ © © - 10 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Onstein - NED 7 7 EW: Angelini - ITA 13 o 3 x E -2 500 c 2 x E -1 200 ¨ ¨ 6 7 ♠K Q 4 7 A7654 9 6 5 9 ♣A Q 6 5 ♠A 9 7 6 N ♠10 8 3 10 8 3 2 J9 W E K6 AQ987 4 S ♣J92 ♣ K10 ♠J52 5 6 KQ 4 J10 3 2 7 ♣8 7 4 3 3 140 W: Helgemo W ¨ 3 p ©K,2,7,9 §A,T,8,2 ©Q,3,A,J ª5,A,K,T ¨4,2,6,5 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 2 X p ¨ E: Helness S p p ª ª © ¨ © § ¨ fabsayc: closed room in 2¨x by east..¨8..¨4.. ©9..©3..©J..©K..¨A..¨2..¨6..¨5..¨K..¨7.. ¨9..¨T..©T..©7..©A..©8..¨J..©Q..¨3..¨Q h bertens: well done by Brink..2¨!..weak..p..3¨ ..¨..p..p..p..©K fabsayc: with different vuls brink might have tried 3nt..©2..©7..©9..♠2 #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 S:: #9 E:: #2 S:: 2,6,Q,3 #4 N:: 4,8,J,7 #6 N:: 4, 7,J, 8 #8 W:: 9,6,K,3 #10 W:: K,,, h bertens: looks like down 2 fabsayc: could they have beat this 3 with slightly different sequence?..♠6..♠Q..♠3..♣A..♣T..♣ 8..♣2..♠4..♠8..♠J..♠7.. Q.. 3.. A.. J.. 4.. 7.. J.. 8..♠5..♠A..♠K..♠T..♣9..♣6..♣ K..♣3.. 4.. 2.. 6.. 5.. K © © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Angelini - ITA 13 EW: Onstein - NED 7 7 o 3 x E -2 500 c 2 x E -1 200 ¨ ¨ 6 7 ♠K Q 4 7 A7654 9 6 5 9 ♣A Q 6 5 ♠A 9 7 6 N ♠10 8 3 10 8 3 2 J9 W E K6 AQ987 4 S ♣J92 ♣ K10 ♠J52 5 6 KQ 4 J10 3 2 7 ♣8 7 4 3 3 140 W: De Wijs W E: Muller S p p p ¨ ¨ © 1 p p © ª ¨ ¨ ª © © ¨ § © § © ª ¨ § ¨ ª ¨ § © #1 S:: K,2,7,9 #2 S:: Q,3,6,J #3 S:: J,6,4,3 #4 S:: 5,A,Q,8 #5 W:: K,5,4,2 #6 W:: 6, 5, A,3 #7 E:: Q,T, 7, 4 #8 E:: T,2,9,K #9 N:: A, 7, 7, 8 #10 E:: 8,J, 2, 5 #11 S:: 8,9,A,T tez: maˆ§ bi anda umutsuz hale geldi serhat: evet, malesef. aslˆ‰nda burda 6h dememeleri bir sans idi. yine 1-4 trefe boyun egildi.. atalok: yine siftah lazˆ‰m bize ..1 !..p funtay: daha cok bord var umutsuz olmak iˆ§in erken..1 hobakan : bu turnuvayˆ‰ 1 kere Almanya kazandˆ‰. gerisini italyan takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kazandˆ ‰ Gerben42: 1 could be short Walddk4: Welcome to Drew Casen..p drewsky: morning all bt: hi drew..2 vugraphzus: welcome atalok: 1 imp alalˆ‰m once funtay: 9 seneden beri yapiliyor bu turnuva bt: missing 7 was worth 12 imps for ns, bridge ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 11 - N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E 1 p 2 X p 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) is an easy game lol..p drewsky: Here, 1 showed 4+ hearts, and 2 was a simple raise to 2 bt : and i the system structure i think west is supposed to pass bt: now tez: her iki masadada 2nt oynanˆ‰yor..p.. ..p Gerben42: Fantoni betweeen pass and 3♣, or even 2♠ hoping for 4-3 fit Gerben42: at least 2 isnt game Gerben42: at this vuln. passing is reasonable Gerben42: 2♠ 2 1 1 = 200 Gerben42: 1♣ i mean sarkar_suk: deal no 4 onstein bid 6h on open room Gerben42: credit Helgemo Helness for putting on pressure with 1♠ 3♠ Gerben42: Fantoni still torn between his options Gerben42: the longer he thinks the more likely he will try 2♠ I guess Gerben42: the basic question is would he double 1 with something like 4513 funtay: 3nt iˆ§in hersey uygun dagilmiˆ ..p champ i: evet tez: doˆ u batˆ‰nˆ‰n ellerini deˆ iˆ tirsek 1 nt olmaz..ˆ imdi 4 nt olacak 2celik1: belki de 5 tez: herˆ ey yerli yerinde tez: italyan takˆ‰mˆ‰nda 3 norveˆ§li oyuncu var champ i: kontur..p murat: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/ European_championships/TeamChampionships.asp? qmenuid=19.. K.. 2 bt: now east just has to guess or , does that make it a 75% game?.. 7.. 9 atalok : neden konturlamadˆ‰ nezih en fazla yapar ortagˆ‰ zonda aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ Gerben42: 2♠ is just too speculative, 3♣ ditto, and -180 isnt the end of the world, so he takes his chances here Gerben42: on a good day pd has 3424 and opps have no fit champ i: irde bu kadar geriyken .. Q.. 3.. 6.. J atalok : boyle ˆ§eyler onemlidir veriri 800 u stress baˆ lar sonra ne yapacak atalok: bari korlerden sonra sp donselerde ˆ§ok batˆ‰rsak yine 12 imp alˆ‰rˆ‰z champ i: zonda 2 karo aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ken x suz ge ˆ§mesi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lemez tez: bizimkiler 4 kontrlu oynuyor ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © © © © ¨ © © © © ¨ atalok: sp donerlerse fazla degisiklik olmaz tez: sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz yari atalok: tez hoca? champ i: 2 iˆ§eri x lu 300 drewsky: I believe this hand is cold for 4 © if declarer NEVER touches hearts ..♠J Gerben42: i hear Helness is playing 3 x even atalok: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰ haber yokmu hiˆ§?..♠6 tez: iki masayˆ‰da seyrediyorum.ne yapayˆ‰ m..yalan haber mi? atalok: bursa 0 trabzon 2 soranlara tez: izmirde vugraf salonundayˆ‰m bt: good idea..♠4..♠3 Walddk4: Welcome to Wayne Stuart..♠5 wstuart: Hi all. Walddk4: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions /10Izmir/Results.htm for results and running scores bt: ♣A ♣K and ♣ ruff to start with is normal bt: and then he sees the drew line, lol drewsky: South’s failure to shift to s marks him with the queen tez: 2 iˆ§eri..♠A 2celik1: Tezcan Hocanin dedigi gibi oldu..♠Q tez: hepsi mecburi hamle Gerben42: so could be 7 imps to Onstein..♠8 sarkar_suk: very important & much needed 7 imp gain for onstein on tha deal Gerben42: still a long way Gerben42: 500 confirmed from other room Gerben42: he has entry problems Gerben42: he would like to play a 4th ♠ but then cannot get ♣K in tez: as alˆ‰p oynarsa.. K.. 5 tez: belki 1 imp kurtarˆ‰rˆ‰z.. 4.. 2.. 6..♣5 funtay: bu turnuvada transfer serbest:).. A drewsky: Devils coup variation coming up here.. 3 tez: ♠ 10 oynayacak.. Q.. T hobakan: kontursuz gitmeseydi iyiydi ama her 2 oyuncumuz da dbl diyecek gˆ…ˆ§ gˆ¶remedi ellerinde..♠7 drewsky: now he will probably go down.. 4 bt: now east will get a count of the hand bt: unfortunately..♠T tez: biliyor ortaˆ ˆ‰nda 3lu ♠ i..♠2..♠9 tez: 4 iˆ§eri 200..♠K Gerben42 : funny now N is endplayed if he cashes A then south is endplayed next.. A.. 7 Gerben42: sure was the most interesting line for 1 ..♣7.. 8.. 8.. J..♣2.. 5..♣8 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © - 12 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) ritong: when prof thinks that long, it is not to lose an opportunity:) tez: 800 verdik diˆ er masda 12 imp angeliniye.. ♣9..♣A ritong: hello there..♣T Gerben42: bjr Henri Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 7 ¨ ¨ this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 7 Angelini - ITA 1 14 E 4 130 E 3 110 7 6 ♠Q 8 7 5 J842 8 4 J10 4 3 ♣K 9 3 ♠J962 N ♠ A53 973 5 W E 7 AK 9 8 6 3 2 S ♣ A Q J10 7 ♣ 82 ♠ K10 4 6 8 A K Q10 6 5 Q5 9 ♣6 5 4 9 110 W N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p p p p W: Helgemo ©A,3,8,5 §8,4,Q,3 ¨K,Q,§7,¨T ©4,¨2,©Q,9 ªA,T,9,7 #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 N:: #9 E:: E: Helness ¨ 3 S 1N p ©K,7,2,¨3 ¨7,4,A,5 ¨6,©6,ª2,¨J ¨9,ª4,6,8 ª3,K,J,Q #2 S:: #4 W:: #6 E:: #8 E:: #10 E:: fabsayc : tricky duck by drijver, but i think ¨ © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ helness will figure it out..1N..p..p..3 ..p..p..p.. A.. 3.. 8.. 5.. K.. 7.. 2.. 3..♣8..♣4..♣ Q..♣3.. 7.. 4.. A.. 5.. K.. Q..♣7.. T.. 6.. 6..♠2.. J.. 4.. 2.. Q.. 9.. 9 MolvaM: helness studies the walls and the ceiling and the table now..♠4..♠6..♠8..♠A..♠T..♠9.. ♠7 - 13 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 7 ¨ ¨ this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 1 14 Onstein - NED 7 E 4 130 E 3 110 7 6 ♠Q 8 7 5 J842 8 4 J10 4 3 ♣K 9 3 ♠J962 N ♠ A53 973 5 W E 7 AK 9 8 6 3 2 S ♣ A Q J10 7 ♣ 82 ♠ K10 4 6 8 A K Q10 6 5 Q5 9 ♣6 5 4 9 110 W N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E p p p p W: De Wijs © ¨ § ¨ © ª ¨ ¨ ª ª § ª E: Muller ¨ 3 S 1N p © ¨ ¨ ª ¨ © ¨ © ©¨ © § § ª § ª © #1 S:: A,3,2,5 #2 S:: K,7,4, 2 #3 E:: A,5,7,4 #4 E:: K,Q, 2, T #5 E:: 2,6,Q,3 #6 W:: 9,8, 6, 6 #7 E:: 9, T, 6, J #8 N:: J, 3, Q, 7 #9 E:: 8, 4,9,7 #10 E:: 8,5,A,9 #11 W:: J,Q,A,T #12 E:: 3,K, T, 8 #13 S:: 4,J,K, 5 tez: yapma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ olsa empasˆ‰ umutsuzda olsa dener..♠3..♠K..♠J..♠Q champ i: 4 sp de batˆ‰yordu zaten tez: nasˆ‰lsa battˆ‰k bari ˆ§ok batmayalˆ‰m dedi tez: batan 4♠ e baraj Gerben42: NS open all hands that are remotely 1NT with 1NT..1N!..p..p tez: muhtemel bizimkilerde der 5 ..3 bt: another trf seq coming up i guess..p Gerben42: 3 needs early ♠ leads otherwise discard one on ♣J tez: 4 yarˆ‰ oynanacak..12 ˆ er bord..p tez: maˆ§ˆ‰n yarˆ‰sˆ‰ olmadˆ‰ daha serhat: 5d dermi? murat: Nunes Nafiz abinin eline baktˆ‰ ˆ imdi ve gˆ…lˆ…msedi ¨ ¨ ¨ © © tez: 4 2 battˆ‰ diˆ er odada....p.. A Gerben42: because of ♠9 can manage anyhow bt: just what you want partner to bid.. 3.. 2 champ i: bˆ…lentin elle 2 h nasˆ‰l girdin demek © © acaba nasˆ‰l olurdu..©5..©K..©7..©4 wstuart: I don’t think it’s such a good idea to pull 3♣ here...¨2..¨A..¨5..¨7 drewsky: Obviously north didn’t realize (but of course he should have) that 3♣ was natural wstuart: S knew what he was getting into when he bid it and N handn’t shown any ♣. drewsky: Good play by west ducking the heart wstuart: Well, whether an error in judgement or an error in interpretation of the bid; it’s still an error... 4.. K.. Q..♠2 drewsky: Ya think ? wstuart: lol drewsky: :) drewsky: I can’t see how this is not down 2 wstuart: Yes, that looks right to me... T..♣2 sarkar_suk: 1 imp for onstein ..♣6..♣Q..♣3.. 9.. 8.. 6.. 6.. 9.. T..♠6.. J.. J.. 3.. Q.. ♣7 drewsky : Soon I will be leaving for the golf course......the over -under on my projected score is 77. Anyone want to wager ?.. 8..♠4..♠9 tez: ikinci u yerden alˆ‰p oynamak biraz daha iyiydi hobakan: buraya herkes milli takˆ‰mlar dˆ… zeyinde geldi.(sˆ…rekli tekrar ediyoruz ama) daha ˆ¶nce Avrupa ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ…lˆ…ˆ ˆ…mˆ…z yok..♠7 wstuart: Well, I haven’t seen your game lately, but I know you can shoot better than that. I’ll take under...♣8..♣5..♣A serhat: herkese iyi aksamlar.. iyi bayramlar.. tez: bu maˆ§taki ilk swingimizi aldˆ‰k tez: sanada serhat drewsky: You know what my handicap is ?..♣9.. ♠J..♠Q..♠A wstuart: I though you were about a 4 drewsky: My handicap is..... drewsky: my swing :) wstuart: lol Gerben42: 1 imp to angelini for an overtrick drewsky: my ral handicap is 5..♠T..♠3..♠K..♣ T drewsky: real..♠8 drewsky: ok, down 2...NEXT..♣4..♣J..♣K ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 14 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2N ¨ 8 8 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 6 13 Angelini - ITA 14 N 2 90 N -3 150 6-5 ♠K 9 6 8 Q7 2 8 8 KQ8 4 6-5 ♣Q 4 3 ♠J872 N ♠A5 654 K J8 W E 9753 J2 S ♣A 7 ♣K J 9652 ♠ Q10 4 3 7 5 A10 9 3 4 A10 6 5 ♣10 8 7 -100 W: Helgemo W p p p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1♣ 2♣ p 2 ¨ ¨J,6,3,Q ª3,8,9,A ¨7,8,§5,¨T §K,T,7,3 E: Helness S X p ¨4,2,A,5 §2,8,A,4 ©T,4,2,J §6,,, #1 E:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #2 N:: #4 E:: #6 S:: #8 E:: fabsayc: the writing was on the wall :)..♠5..p MolvaM : live izmir http://www.ustream.tv/ channel/champions-cup-2010 MolvaM: helness drijver on the left and helgemo brink on the right..1♣!..2+..2♣ MolvaM: helness: only 10 points in dummy. we must have a chance.. ..p..2 ..p..p..p.. J h bertens: A lot of guesses to make in this little hand, h bertens: thats no 1.. 6.. 3.. Q.. 4.. 2.. A.. 5..♠3..♠8..♠9 MolvaM: brink went up to bring water to drijver and helness..♠A MolvaM: no water to helgemo:) fabsayc: there are a lot of clues also, most cards placed by bidding and opening lead MolvaM: helness: "yeaaaaaaaah" fabsayc: no club lead places helgemo with club ace or king, putting most of the other cards with ¨ ¨ - 15 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ helness fabsayc: this is an avoidance play, countered..♣ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © 2..♣8..♣A..♣4.. 7.. 8..♣5.. T.. T.. 4.. 2.. J..♣K..♣T..♣7..♣3..♣6 fabsayc: the expected high standard of card play by all © 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2N ¨ 8 8 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 14 Onstein - NED 6 13 N 2 90 N -3 150 6-5 ♠K 9 6 8 Q7 2 8 8 KQ8 4 6-5 ♣Q 4 3 ♠J872 N ♠A5 654 K J8 W E 9753 J2 S ♣A 7 ♣K J 9652 ♠ Q10 4 3 7 5 A10 9 3 4 A10 6 5 ♣10 8 7 -100 W: De Wijs W p p p N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E 1N p p 2 p p ¨ § § © § § ¨ © ª ¨ ¨ © ª E: Muller S 2♣ 2N § §ª § © ª ¨ © ª ¨ ª #1 E:: 2,8,A,3 #2 W:: 7,Q,K,T #3 E:: 9, 3,6, 4 #4 E:: J, 3,2,6 #5 E:: 6, 6, 5, 9 #6 E:: 5, 9,4,2 #7 E:: 2,A,3,4 #8 S:: 4,7,K,A #9 E:: J,T,5,K #10 N:: Q, 8, T, 7 #12 S:: Q,J,, #11 N:: 7,J,A, 8 wstuart: I’ll still take under since I know you wouldn’t throw a stroke just to win a bet... vugraphzus: a short break here wstuart: tihs will be an interesting board. There are sseveral reasonable actions for each player. I’ ll offer another wager that this board will not be a push. drewsky: 4♠ w-e here atalok: tekirdag takˆ‰mˆ‰ almanya karˆ ˆ‰sˆ ‰nda 1 2imp ile one geˆ§miˆ galip gelirse yarˆ ‰n 9-10 maˆ§ˆ‰ oynuyacak champ i: 4. lˆ…kde yok demi ˆ¶zgˆ…r hobakan: final oynayamˆ‰yor isek ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ …lk maˆ§ˆ‰nda ˆ ans ve baˆ arˆ‰lar diliyorum takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za tez: avrupa 3.lˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… beˆ enmemekte bir geliˆ me sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ¨ wstuart: -1 save in 5 NS..p yusufb: 4 gelincek gibi atalok: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n maglubuda 3-4 maˆ§ˆ‰na ˆ © §ˆ‰kacak murat: 4.lˆ…ˆ ˆ…mˆ…z var.. http://www.eurobridge.org /competitions/European_championships/TeamChampRP.asp? qmenudetid=372 champ i: yusuf hoca sessizliˆ i bozdu :),..1N! Gerben42: 1NT all pass but wont make drewsky: ew makes 5♠ ?..p hobakan: hollanda rusya maˆ§ˆ‰nda da hollanda ˆ¶nde tez: gurptan 1.takˆ‰m olarak ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰k wstuart: not quite, , ruff, win ♠A and I think beats it..2♣ wstuart: but close. wstuart: NS must be playing neg free bids? drewsky: oh yeah wayne, suppose i run the clubs at you with the dummy behind you ? wstuart: ohh, yeah maybe so..p drewsky: and maybe not :)..2 atalok: 4d? hobakan: 77-16 hobakan : ben desteˆ imi artˆ‰rˆ‰p salona gideceˆ im yarˆ‰n..(pazar ) :) hobakan: herkese iyi akˆ amlar..p tez: nereye ˆ¶zgˆ…r..2N funtay: iyi aksamlar wstuart: I ruff one, you over ruff, but can’t get back to hand - ♠9 comes into play...p drewsky: In any event, the undiscplined weak jump overcall with 6 HCP outside of hearts took ew out of the auction tez: bizi bˆ‰rakma hobakan: hollanda ˆ¶nde Rusya karˆ ˆ‰sˆ‰ nda..p Gerben42 : but I guess if North had a hand similar to the last one, 4 might have been on wstuart: I don’t like 2 either, but how would you define a disciplined jump overcall?..p hobakan: izmirdeyiz abi.. cumartesi bugˆ…n:):).. ♣2 ritong: they have to do this when 1 NT can be very offshape, especially with a 5 cards major Gerben42: so one extra down drewsky: KQJ10xx and out :)..♣8 yusufb: teki cˆ‰kcak hobakan: tek varsa ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰n demiˆ Gerben42: Bas Drijver playing 2 (strong NT for them) wstuart: So, pretty much no outside defense...♣ A ¨¨ © ¨ © © ¨ - 16 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) tez: yarˆ‰ final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u anda tez: 4♣ desede aslan 4 diyemeyecek drewsky: well, certainly not an ace and queen ¨ outside..♣3 hobakan: 1-kantar.. 2-Yusuf:):) tez: eleme..♣7 hobakan: yarˆ‰n gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z....♣Q tez: kazanan final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayacak..♣K tez: 4 yarˆ‰ toplam tez: kalacaklar 4 te yusufb: :):):) bide italyanlar..♣T..♣9 tez: 4/3 e guzel 4♠ Gerben42: probably 1 2♣ x p 2 .. 3 tez: 12 ˆ er bord heryarˆ‰.. 6 tez: moisyan fit deniyor galiba..♣4..♣J Gerben42: apparently 1♣ could be short, then 2 ♣ natural..♠3 tez: 3nt oynasak ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z vardˆ‰..♠2 hobakan : benim sˆ‰ralamamda yok onlar yusufcum:):)..♠6..♣6 funtay: evet, .. 6 tez: salvo ya atak gelirdi.. 5..♠9..♣5.. 9.. 4 Gerben42: at least 2 down here.. 2 Gerben42: cuts off declarer’s hand tez: ne oldu anlamadˆ‰m .. 2.. A.. 3.. 4..♠ 4 funtay: evet oluyordu batara geldi birden..♠7..♠ K..♠A.. J champ i: h den kˆ‰salˆ‰nca yere geˆ§erken sp le ˆ§akˆ‰nca 4. sp artˆ‰yor ritong: nice defense.. T.. 5.. K Gerben42: good switch by Muller - a regular error is when you have cashed all those ♣ to just be happy about it and not pay attention.. Q.. 8.. ♠T.. 7.. 7.. J.. A ritong: cashing the ♠ ace would have led to one off ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨© © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © - 17 - ¨ © Board NS: EW: o 2♠ c 2N 9 9 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 1 14 Angelini - ITA 14 S 3 140 N 2 120 8 ♠AK 8 432 7 6 763 7 ♣K Q 9 7 3 ♠10 5 4 2 N ♠8 3 76 A K10 8 5 W E K854 Q9 2 S ♣ A10 6 ♣J 42 ♠Q J 9 7 6 5 5 QJ9 6 A J10 5 ♣8 5 5 120 W: Helgemo W p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1N p p p ©7,2,K,9 ¨4,6,Q,A ªA,3,7,4 ªQ,5,§3,2 #1 W:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 S:: E: Helness S 2♠ ¨2,J,K,3 ª6,2,K,8 ¨7,9,T,5 ªJ,T,§7, #2 E:: #4 S:: #6 N:: #8 S:: fabsayc: defense slipped a trick here..♠8..♠Q.. ♠J..1N..p..2♠..p..p..p..©7..©2..©K..©9..¨2..¨ J..¨K..¨3..¨4..¨6..¨Q..¨A..♠6..♠2..♠K..♠ 8..♠A..♠3..♠7 h bertens: helness had to play a diamond. Down ¨ if his partner had the ten of diamonds..♠4.. 7.. 9.. T.. 5..♠Q..♠5..♣3..♣2..♠J..♠T..♣7 ¨ ¨ ¨ 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 2♠ c 2N 9 9 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 14 Onstein - NED 1 14 S 3 140 N 2 120 8 ♠AK 8 432 7 6 763 7 ♣K Q 9 7 3 ♠10 5 4 2 N ♠8 3 76 A K10 8 5 W E K854 Q9 2 S ♣ A10 6 ♣J 42 ♠Q J 9 7 6 5 5 QJ9 6 A J10 5 ♣8 5 5 120 W: De Wijs W p p © ª © N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E 1N p 2♠ p p p E: Muller S 2 2N © ª § #1 E:: 5,Q,6,2 #2 S:: 6,2,A,8 #3 N:: K,3,7,5 #4 N:: K,4,5,A #5 W:: 7,4,, drewsky: bye all, off to shoot 78 so wayne loses his wager champ i: belki 1 gelir burdan arigun: hidayet kaptan ? tez: buyuk el geliyor tez: 6♣ e geldik wstuart : Many players feel that they should loosen up their preempts when pard is a passed hand since there is no game, but there is actaully a good argument for tightening up your preempts .....1N! wstuart: since the only thing you are bidding for is finding a save, therfore your pard needs to know exactly your defensive prospects. hobakan : o gˆ¶nˆ…llerin ilk sˆ‰rasˆ‰nda Cengiz abi:) champ i: tersten oynanˆ‰rsa karo atak edilmez eyamut: gˆ…naydˆ‰n yusufb: o tek diil as varsa alttan cˆ‰kma konusunda uzman:) wstuart: $5 Drew..p ritong: since east would get squeezed ace ritong: on the yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn erhan hoˆ geldinn..2 arigun: gunaydin erhan..p murat: gˆ…naydˆ‰n :) tez: 6♣ ˆ§ok iyi kontrat champ i: batarsˆ‰z tez: ilk defa 6♣ yapˆ‰yoruz Gerben42 : 1NT must be their Burger King © © opening - over one zillion served..2♠ funtay: o takim da Nafiz ve Nezihte vardi..p tez: butun 6♣ lere battˆ‰k ...ˆ§ok yuksek yuzdedli olanlarada battˆ‰k..2N..p..p ritong: oh they are in 2NT right defnse saved a trick anyway..p champ i: ˆ mit Tarhan Tokay da vardˆ‰.. 5 tez: daha iyi oynanabilirmiˆ evet ama defansˆ‰ nda hakkˆ‰nˆ‰ vermek gerekiyor tez: ♠ yada atak ederse batˆ‰rabiliriz.. Q.. 6 atalok: 2 dam empasˆ‰nˆ‰da aynˆ‰ yere atar bakalˆ‰m ne tarafˆ‰ seˆ§ecek tez: hidayet abi yok muydu?.. 2 Gerben42: other table Drijver opened a mini NT and Brink bid 2♠ to play..♠6..♠2..♠A funtay: digerleri ˆ rfan Dogan, Zafer Sengˆ…ler, ˆ smail Kandemir ve ˆ mit Tarhan..♠8..♠K..♠3.. ♠7..♠5..♣K tez: bilmesi gerekiyor nereye atacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰..♣4 Gerben42: so exciting hand if it were board a match tez: elde pek bilimsel veri yok..♣5 tokay1975: nezih h cˆ‰kmayarak cok iyi bisey yapti simdi cl dami bulamassa h damini diger elde arayabilir yusufb: ilk el 9♠ mi verdi..♣A © © ¨ © © - 18 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 10 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 14 Angelini - ITA 14 N 4 620 N 4 620 10 9 ♠A J 8 2 11 K J6 8 9 K82 11 ♣A 4 2 ♠7 3 N ♠ K10 5 A10 4 3 Q987 W E 7543 Q10 9 S ♣Q 9 8 ♣7 6 5 ♠Q 9 6 4 2 2 52 5 AJ6 4 ♣ K J10 3 2 650 W: Helgemo W p p p p © ª § #1 E:: 8,2,A,6 #3 N:: A,5,4,3 #5 S:: 3,8,A,5 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p 1♠ p 2N p 4♠ p E: Helness S 1♣ 2♠ 3♠ p © ª § #2 W:: 3,K,7,5 #4 N:: 2,T,Q,7 #6 N:: 2,6,T,Q h bertens: more important then the overtrick.. © 7.. 4 © fabsayc: he can take the heart ruff and then play a diamond..p h bertens: then east has no more entree..1♣!..2+ ..p h bertens: to play the second diamond..1♠..p..2 ♠..p h bertens: this is a normal 4spades but again needs to take some good vieuws..2N!..p..3♠..p..4 ♠..p h bertens: on a heart lead its made ..p..p.. 8 h bertens: easy fabsayc: every lead helps to some extent.. 2.. A.. 6.. 3.. K.. 7.. 5 h bertens: thats true, only a diamond or a spade lead would give the defence a small chance h bertens: but heart looks so normal © © © © © - 19 - © © © ralfwil: E has a difficult lead. Helgemo could also © have lead a ..... ralfwil: if 4♠ is on S.... fabsayc: club lead in closed room..♠A..♠5..♠ 4..♠3..♠2..♠T..♠Q..♠7 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 10 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 14 Onstein - NED 14 N 4 620 N 4 620 10 9 ♠A J 8 2 11 K J6 8 9 K82 11 ♣A 4 2 ♠7 3 N ♠ K10 5 A10 4 3 Q987 W E 7543 Q10 9 S ♣Q 9 8 ♣7 6 5 ♠Q 9 6 4 2 2 52 5 AJ6 4 ♣ K J10 3 2 650 W: De Wijs W p p p p §5,J,Q,A ª2,T,Q,7 §T,8,4,7 ¨T,J,5,8 ©7,5,, #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 E:: #9 E:: N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E p p 1♣ 1♠ p 2♠ p p p E: Muller S p 1 2 4♠ © © ªA,5,4,3 §K,9,2,6 §3,¨4,2,ªK ©2,3,J,Q #2 N:: #4 S:: #6 S:: #8 S:: arigun: maddi bir hata oldu masada belli ki ya elinden dustu nezihin yada yanlis gordu..♣3..♣ 8..♣A..♣5..♣2..♣6..♣T..♣Q tez: bordlar duruldu tez: kritik oyun yada defans yok tez: bundan sonra baˆ lˆ‰yor bomba eller champ i : kˆ‰zlar bˆ…lente gider bilmiyor angelini ben olsam + 1 yapardˆ‰m tez : bir buyuk skor daha gelirse maˆ§a ortak oluruz Gerben42: board won by the mini NT :) tez: tˆ…m maˆ§ boyunca ˆ anslˆ‰ olduˆ umuz ilk el..p tez: ˆ aka diyorum.kimse bilemez ne gelecek..p..p murat: Angelini Bˆ…lent’e sorular soruyor Gerben42: 1♣ = 13++ with ♣ or 15+ NT..1♣! ..p © tez: 4♠ e gelinecek..1 ! Gerben42: 1 = ♠..p imp_jan: morning folks..1♠!..p..2 ! tez: oynanmazsa ♣ in ˆ…zerine kayˆ‰p © ¨ © ¨ ka ˆ§ˆ‰lacak tez: 1 imp vereceˆ iz burdan tez: 3♠ e 2 batacaktˆ‰k..ondan iyi..p..2♠..p tez: 3 nt deseler yapacaklardˆ‰ murat: 3NTye de yaklaˆ mˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ tez: ♣ dam atak eder diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ tˆ…m Gerben42: 1♠ usually shows fit Gerben42: 2 = 7+ with doubleton eyamut: m..4♠ tez: 2♣ drury idi..aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ a yakˆ‰n puan ve tutuˆ gˆ¶steriyor..pastan gelen ellerde kullanˆ‰lˆ‰ yor.. Gerben42: or shorter..p imp_jan : bad wheather here in izmir (raing sometimes), but the bridge is great..p champ i: iˆ te beklenen sayˆ‰ geldi atalok: siftah geldi bereketi allahtan yusufb: 1 degil 10 olarak gelmeside iyi tabii:) imp_jan: check the website of the ebl for results and bulletins and of course www.bridgetopics.com for all the news 2celik1: merci champ i: helgemo bize 10 sayˆ‰ hediye etmiˆ te ˆ ekkˆ…rler atalok: nezh bunuda artˆ‰ 1 yapar bence vugraphzus: atak iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor Fantoni funtay: 3 vakte kader bi kismet cikicak murat: Bˆ…lentten Nunes’e: Two spades di mi?? murat: Fantoni atak iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken kˆ‰ sa bir video ˆ§ektim. yayˆ‰nlamaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ‰m..p 2celik1: talihsiz 4 major bordu dˆ‰sˆ‰nda gayet guzel bir mac cˆ‰karˆ‰yor Izmir Buyuksehir arigun: ♠ atagindan sonra isler biraz karisabilirdi belki, kup icin ♣’e giderken nezih ♣T koymazsa problemi cikabilirdi ama !k veya Q koysa dahi ♣J ve lar nunes de oldugu icin ... arigun: otomatik oluyor tez: ˆ… yere ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰na engel olmak d ˆ…ˆ ˆ…ncesiyle koz atak etti Gerben42: same contract in other room tez: di dedimi nunes?..♣5..♣J..♣Q tez: :) murat: daha ˆ§ok hˆ¶ˆ¶’ye benziyordu Gerben42: 1 imp back to Angelini after the lead? ..♣A ritong: good players are not keen about leads from xxx, but here the hand is a nightmare to lead © ¨ © © ¨ - 20 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Gerben42: the best lead from this hand is abstain tez: 3 yada 4.den 1 major aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra kullanˆ‰lˆ‰yor....♠A tez: evde lˆ…tfen kendi baˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰za denemeyin.. ♠5..♠4..♠3..♠2 tez: patlar:)..♠T..♠Q..♠7 arigun: 1 ♣ e 1 tane ♠ e gidiyormus yerden pardon..♣K..♣9 tez: emeline ulaˆ tˆ‰..♣2..♣6 tez: yere ˆ§aktˆ‰rˆ‰lamadˆ‰..♣T..♣8..♣4 tez: ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰zla anlaˆ ˆ‰n..♣7..♣3.. 4 Gerben42: looks like 11ish tricks.. 2 ¨ © ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2♣ ¨ 11 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 14 Angelini - ITA 14 W -1 50 W -1 50 11 8 ♠9 6 7 KQ65 9 6 J875 7 ♣A J 8 ♠J87 N ♠AK 5 4 3 10 9 8 4 W E A K Q10 6 43 S ♣Q 9 7 6 ♣4 3 2 ♠ Q10 3 2 5 6 A J72 4 92 7-6 ♣ K10 5 6 140 W: Helgemo W ¨ 1 2♣ p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p p p © ¨ 1 2 E: Helness S p p p ª9,4,Q,7 #2 S::ª3,J,6,5 ¨A,5,3,9 #4 W::¨K,7,4,2 ¨Q,8,§2,ª2 #6 W::¨6,J,©4,ªT ©K,8,2,3 #8 N::©5,9,A,¨T ª8,§8,ªK,©7 #10 E::ªA,©J,§6,©6 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 W:: #7 N:: #9 W:: fabsayc: down 1, might have gone two down on ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © © ¨ © © initial heart lead..♠K.. T.. J.. 5.. 8.. 2.. 3.. J.. Q.. 7.. 5..p..1 ..p..1 ..p..2♣..p..2 ..p..p..p..♠9..♠4..♠Q..♠7..♠3..♠J..♠6..♠5.. A.. 5.. 3.. 9.. K.. 7.. 4.. 2.. Q.. 8..♣ 2..♠2.. 6.. J.. 4..♠T.. K.. 8.. 2.. 3.. 5.. 9.. A.. T..♠8..♣8..♠K.. 7..♠A.. J..♣6 - 21 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2♣ ¨ 11 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 14 Onstein - NED 14 W -1 50 W -1 50 11 8 ♠9 6 7 KQ65 9 6 J875 7 ♣A J 8 ♠J87 N ♠AK 5 4 3 10 9 8 4 W E A K Q10 6 43 S ♣Q 9 7 6 ♣4 3 2 ♠ Q10 3 2 5 6 A J72 4 92 7-6 ♣ K10 5 6 140 W: De Wijs W ¨ 1 2♣ N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E © p p ©K,4,2,3 ª7,6,A,2 ª8,9,K,3 ¨A,5,3,2 ¨6,8,§2,5 ªQ,J,, 1 p E: Muller S p p p ©5,8,A,§6 ©9,7,§7,©Q ©T,J,§Q,©6 ¨K,7,4,9 §K,9,8,3 Walddk4: Welcome to Jeff Sapire..©6 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 W:: #7 W:: #9 W:: #11 S:: #2 N:: #4 E:: #6 E:: #8 W:: #10 S:: fann4: Hi all wstuart: Hi Jeff fann4: Hi there Wayne. tez: son yarˆ‰ 20 dakika sonra baˆ layacak murat: masaya Rahmi geldi. 10dk kaldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ ‰ hatˆ‰rlattˆ‰ Gerben42: 10 tricks? yakop: diferans olacak bi bord..p Gerben42: 2 in other room tez: iˆ imiz zor..dˆ…nyanˆ‰n en iyi kulup takˆ‰ mˆ‰na karˆ ˆ‰ 12 elde 60 imp kapatmak..1 tez: kuzey guney zayˆ‰f sanzatu oynuyorlar Gerben42: misguessed ..p tez: bu limitler iˆ§indeki her yarˆ‰ dengeli ya da 5li majˆ¶rˆ… olan ellerle de 1 nt aˆ§ˆ‰yorlar..1 ..p..2♣ champ i: zayˆ‰f nt mi oynuyorlardˆ‰..p ¨ © ¨ © tez: 12 15 nt tokay1975: boye ortagini hep uygun seviyede oynatiyo profosyonellik bu olsa gerek tez: zayˆ‰f sanzatu oynuyor kuzey guney..p Gerben42: Muller doesnt know what minor is longer in Precision Gerben42: apparently de Wijs might have rebid 1NT as well but didnt think his hand was very NTish..p fann4: A comfortable contract - even with the bad ♣ break.. K arigun: 6♣ de problem cikabilir ama 6♠ sorunsuz galiba ama demesi neredeyse imkansiz ve iyi bir slam degil.. 4 vahaboglu: 4♣ vahaboglu: iyi vahaboglu: deklere olarak vahaboglu: 4♣-5♣ mi gider hobakan: 4♣-4♠ begse: 2♠ 10-13 3♣ minimum gˆ¶sterdi yusufb: cˆ‰kˆ‰lmazsa 6nt de olur hobakan: bence doˆ ru zonu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor Nezih begse: ♣ leri olduklarˆ‰nˆ‰ bilmiyorlar henˆ …z vahaboglu: o zaman deklereleri geri alˆ‰yorum vahaboglu: ok hobakan: minimuma karˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰k begse: ˆ lem mevzubahis degil 3s te kalmasˆ‰ nlar vahaboglu: belki 4♠ mi begse: ama salvoda mˆ…thiˆ el var phantoma: 3D ya 4♠ daha iyi olabilir miydi? phantoma: var mi sistemlerinde boyle bir ifade Gerben42: as it is 1NT isnt a big success even though are 4-4 wstuart: A low is an interesting choice, even knowing that the length is behind you... 2.. 3 wstuart: The finesse is a free play, since one of the losers can go on the A. hobakan: 3nt-4♠ yusufb: 4♠ der salvo bence begse: yine direktˆ¶r cagˆ‰rˆ‰rlar vugraphzus: evet:).. 5 vugraphzus: ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ Fantoni yusufb: tabiii 3-5 eldir cagˆ‰ramadˆ‰lar canlar ˆ‰ sˆ‰kˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r hobakan: ya gelmiyim oraya begse: bunlara dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmek serbest bize degil bak hakem cagˆ‰racaklar vahaboglu: hesitation var diye mi © © ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © © - 22 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) hobakan: ne bu ya tez: koz ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ… daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ama oyunu yapmak zor deˆ il vahaboglu: bari yeri gˆ¶rˆ…p ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rsaydˆ‰.. 8 yusufb: dˆ…sˆ…nerek alenen manyel yapˆ‰ yolar bide literatˆ…re geldi yap bi italyan begse: bu normal ama begse: adam oynayˆ‰n diyecek vahaboglu : aslˆ‰nda hesitation olmuˆ tur eminim ama bu "ben ˆ… tam kesmiyorum" ˆ eklindeyse biraz haklˆ‰ olabilirler 2celik1: Sayˆ‰n Nafiz Abimizin su serzenisi de bence literature gecmeli tez: ˆ§akarak rahatˆ§a yapacak 2♠ i tez: en iyi defans hep ♠ oynamak funtay: bˆ…yˆ…k abi -1 diyo Tez vahaboglu: ama yer aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca ˆ¶yle olmadˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰yor.. A hobakan: ˆ u an hakemin yapacaˆ ˆ‰ biˆ ey yok.. devam edin diyecek fann4: South might have bid 1NT over the dbl... ♣6 champ i: 6 cl 2celik1: onlar dusununce hep bir nedenleri var ama baskasˆ‰nˆ‰n yok hobakan: onlar da beklemenin yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ anˆ‰ tespit ettirmek amacˆ‰ ile ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ lar..♠7 hobakan: meˆ ersem ˆ ilem iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lˆ …yormuˆ .. HADˆ SALVO!!..♠6..♠A..♠2 tez: bˆ…yˆ…k abinin eli tutulmaz..o hep doˆ ru der.. 9.. 7 funtay: tabi abinin abisi de var:) tez: bu elden de sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz..♣7.. Q..♠8 tez: en baˆ tan olurdu bence tez: ˆ§aka elden baˆ layarak wstuart: Yes. It would have positioned his side a little better hand N had a hand to compete with... ♠9 fann4: Right..♠K tez: oyuncular skoru gormuyor devre bitmeden wstuart: In this case, it would liekly have led to the same contract...♠3 serhat: Top aglarda.. T atalok: zoramayapsalvo phantoma: batabilir vahaboglu: evet yusufb: salvonun eliyle KQJ109X ♠ varken 6♠ derdin ama 44 oynatˆ‰p ♠ kagˆ‰t atmayˆ‰ dˆ …sˆ…ndˆ… belki arigun: nasil yapacak ki ... ilk ♠ i almayacak abi © © © © © © © © - 23 - vahaboglu: ♠ boˆ lanˆ‰rsa vahaboglu: batar 2celik1 : direktor cagˆ‰rˆ‰lˆ‰nca Ismail Kandemir in board acˆ‰ldˆ‰gˆ‰nda dedigi gibi fark yaratacak bir durum olustu belki de yusufb: diger masada zon oynadˆ‰gˆ‰ iˆ§in 21 imp lik bord hobakan: ˆ u trefl de 4-1 olmak zorunda sanki 2celik1: o fark lehimize olsun murat: bˆ…lent kˆ¶re uyunca ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰.. J wstuart: It’s possible that NS play xfrs starting with 1NT over the DBL,m so he might not have had a natural 1NT available to him...♣Q.. 6.. A tez: dam iyi gibi.. 5 tez: 4. yarˆ‰ birazdan baˆ layacak..oyuncular elleri konuˆ uyor burda.. 3.. 2.. K tez: bˆ¶ylede farketmiyor tez: gergin bir ortam yok.. 7 vahaboglu: boˆ larsa batar.. 4 vahaboglu: yu atar tez: kotude gitseniz hep umut taˆ ˆ‰rsˆ‰nˆ‰z.. 9 Gerben42: looking like a push now.. 6 fann4: I arrived at the halfway stage - this is a staggering lead after 10 boards... 8..♣2..♣5 yusufb: cok iyi atak etti nunes vahaboglu: ˆ§ok iyi defans yaptˆ‰lar yapacak bir ˆ ey yok tez: aslan tabiki ortaˆ ˆ‰ndaki asˆ‰ biliyor Gerben42: rest for NS hobakan: karo rua ataˆ ˆ‰na aˆ§ˆ‰k el yapˆ‰ lablir belki de....♣K..♣9..♣8..♣3..♠Q..♠J hobakan: kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰ksa olurdu vugraphzus: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler champ i: Nezih abi 3 karo dediˆ i halde ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ ‰ bide vugraphzus: diˆ er maˆ§lar 14.00 da baˆ layacak arigun: biz tesekkur ederiz kenan eline saglik hobakan: ellerine saˆ lˆ‰k kenancˆ‰m.. tez: eˆ er bu maˆ§ˆ‰ kaybedersek..rusya ile 3/4 maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayacaˆ ˆ‰z © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 12 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 13 27 Angelini - ITA 14 S 5 660 S -1 100 12 ♠10 5 43 K10 9 4 ♣A Q J 5 2 ♠9 7 6 2 N ♠Q 8 4 3 8 K10 6 2 W E Q7 2 AJ6 S ♣9 7 6 4 3 ♣10 8 ♠ AK J AQ J 975 853 ♣K 630 W: Helgemo W p 1♠ p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p 1 X 2♠ p p ª6,5,Q,A §K,3,A,8 §J,ª3,¨3,§6 ©A,ª7,§2,©T #1 W:: #3 S:: #5 N:: #7 S:: © 10 8 10 10 10 fabsayc: fantoni with no clues played ace and queen of hearts, which should result in 10 tricks max.. J..♠2.. A..♠7..♣2.. T.. 7..♠9..♣5.. K ralfwil: thanks all and bye for now h bertens: he will go down i think fabsayc: he is in fact headed down © © © © © 2 5 3 3 3 E: Helness S p 3N ©Q,8,3,6 §Q,T,¨5,§4 ©4,2,J,ª2 ©7,ª9,§5,©K #2 S:: #4 N:: #6 N:: #8 S:: h bertens : will be difficult to reach 4h now © ..p..p..1 ..p..1♠ h bertens: will bid 3nt .. ..2♠..3N MolvaM: last board of this segment..p..p..p..♠6 h bertens: is actually easier to play after 1 h opening MolvaM: 2nd segment starts at 1400hrs local / 1300hrs CET MolvaM: 90 minutes from now after lunch break fabsayc: best for helness to duck this..♠5..♠Q.. ♠A.. Q.. 8.. 3 fabsayc: ducking does not beat hand, but sure 11 if he wins h bertens: closed room also in 3nt h bertens: but without ew bidding h bertens: not that easy for Fantoni fabsayc: actually same 11 possible now.. 6..♣ K..♣3..♣A..♣8..♣Q..♣T.. 5..♣4..♣J..♠3.. 3..♣6.. 4.. 2 ¨ © © © © © ¨ © ¨ - 24 - 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 12 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 14 Onstein - NED 13 27 S 5 660 S -1 100 12 ♠10 5 43 K10 9 4 ♣A Q J 5 2 ♠9 7 6 2 N ♠Q 8 4 3 8 K10 6 2 W E Q7 2 AJ6 S ♣9 7 6 4 3 ♣10 8 ♠ AK J AQ J 975 853 ♣K 630 W: De Wijs W p p p p N: Nunes Closed S: Fantoni N E p p 2♣ p 3 p p p 2 5 3 3 3 E: Muller S 1 2 3N © © ¨ ª7,5,Q,A ©Q,ª2,©4,K ©7,ª9,¨4,©T ©J,¨7,§5,©6 ¨3,2,K,A ¨5,§3,¨T,J ¨6,8,§9,A #1 W:: #3 S:: #5 S:: #7 S:: #9 S:: #11 S:: #13 E:: 10 8 10 10 10 ©A,8,3,2 ª3,K,6,T §T,K,6,2 ©9,§4,¨9,§8 ª4,J,¨Q,§J ª8,©5,§7,Q #2 S:: #4 E:: #6 E:: #8 S:: #10 E:: #12 E:: yusufb: kenan eline saglˆ‰k champ i: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan hobakan: son devre dinlendircem seni inˆ allah:) vugraphzus: son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzus: bir sonraki devre 16 00 da champ i: teˆ ekkˆ…rler kenan tez: hollanda rusyaya karˆ ˆ‰ 90 imp ˆ¶nde vugraphzus: son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzus: last board vugraphzus: thanks all and bye wstuart : Not much has been going right for Iceland at either table so far...p vugraphzus: ok ii olur :) funtay: eline saglik Kenan hobakan: saat kaˆ§taydˆ‰ bir sonraki?..p..p sarkar_suk: cold 6 hearts for italy - 25 - 2celik1: son board son 2 devrede Turk takimlarina iyi sanslar funtay: herkese iyi aksamlar champ i: gerˆ§ekten kenan kardeˆ imiz sˆ‰fˆ‰r hatayla yˆ¶netti teˆ ekkˆ…rler tez: kenan yine mi sen..bir lˆ¶ve atlamaz mˆ‰ insan Gerben42: last board of the 1st set - 36 more board in the battle of two of Europe’s top teams yusufb: 14..1 ! MolvaM: devreler 14 te 16da ve 18de vugraphzus: 14:00 wstuart: 2♣ majors?..p champ i: yani final ve 3. 4. lˆ…k belli oldu vugraphzus: :) Gerben42: 1 forcing, both majors or 14+..2♣! fann4: Probably, and looks like 2 is nat, now showing equal length in the majors..p hobakan: bunu da demezler heralde di mi? yusufb: demezler murat: 3♣ 5li majˆ¶r sorusu fann4: So they’ll play the 4-3 ♠ fit..2 !..p tez: henˆ…z yapmadˆ‰k hobakan: hadi geˆ§miˆ olsun..3 Gerben42 : thanks to our excellent operator Kenan and all the organizers in Izmir Turkey fann4: I meant - not showing .......p wstuart: 2 here appeared to be natural. I prefer to play it as equal length in the majors, overcaller picks his longer one...3N fann4: Same for me fann4: Declarer will make 4 trumps, 3♣ and a red trick. sarkar_suk: lets see wat happen..i think they will bid it hobakan: bye tez: muhtemel batacak empasˆ‰ atacak tez: tez: ˆ¶nce ♣ deneyemiyor..ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… 4 1♣ verir o zaman sarkar_suk: they cant ..p vahaboglu: 4 devre sarkar_suk: bye all yusufb: gecen 6 elinin diferansˆ‰ fazlaydˆ‰ yaz ˆ‰k oldu MolvaM: daha 36 bord var endiˆ elenmeye gerek yoktur vahaboglu: hakem nedeniyle bizimkiler 6 dedi 2celik1 : son boarddaki sansimiz daim olur umarim tez : yarˆ‰n oynanacak 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰na bekliyoruz © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © 9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 1_4 Izmir Tur) tez: finali italya hollanda oynayacak tez: rusya ile maˆ§ˆ‰mˆ‰z vahaboglu: kˆ‰zdˆ‰lar :)..p murat: kenan ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler. murat: herkese iyi akˆ amlar tez: 10.30 yada 11 de baˆ lˆ‰yor maˆ§lar vugraphzus: 10.30 da baˆ layacak murat: 11.00 wstuart: 2♠ should make easily, perhaps even with an overtrick...p 2celik1: bundan sonraki devrelerde Izmir Buyuksehir Belediye ve Cerkezkoy Takˆ‰mlarˆ‰mˆ‰za basarˆ‰lar Gerben42: same contract in other room Gerben42: other room East opened 1 ..♠7 Gerben42: white on red 3rd seat and all vugraphzus: next sesion 14:00 pm Gerben42: makes hand an open book for Brink murat: :)..♠5 Gerben42: so in 90 minutes wstuart: he could conceivably even get a ruff in dummy and those other tricks as well...♠Q..♠ A fann4: ruff in hand MolvaM: 11 IMP wstuart: in hand - right.. A.. 8 tez: ˆ§ek as ruayˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ mezse empas yaparsˆ ‰n:).. 3 murat: dampik :).. 2.. Q 2celik1: merci Sayin Pasam..♠2 tez: normal olanˆ‰ oynadˆ‰.. 4 tez : murat/ champ ve funtayˆ‰n doyumsuz yorumlarˆ‰ iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ…rler:) Gerben42: wont manage 660 here so Onstein will take the lead fann4: Anything now except a and it’s 8 tricks only... K..♠3 champ i: saˆ olasˆ‰n tez hoca..♠K funtay: Tez:)..♠6 Gerben42: in fact dummy is a bit out of the way here..♠T Gerben42: must take care Gerben42: ♣K next Gerben42 : are dead if he takes those cant make it Gerben42: 2 2 and a ♠ lost Gerben42: to 10, to Q Gerben42: and game over murat: thx Tez :).. 7 Gerben42: here goes... MolvaM: daim olursa 24 x 11..♠9 sarkar_suk: a nice 29 imp lead for fantoni & © © © © © © © © © ¨ © © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ nunes.... 4 2celik1: hazˆ‰r kˆ‰zmˆ‰sken Salvador Assael pirimiz de 6♠ deyiverse idi bari MolvaM: saat 14te bekleriz. yemek molasˆ‰ vugraphzus: thx sarkar_suk: thx all tez: ˆ lem ellerindeki ˆ anssˆ‰zlˆ‰klar kaybettirdi macˆ‰ buyuk ara.. T Gerben42: sry can make after return Gerben42: but ♣ cuts communication..♣T..♣K Gerben42: 2 2 and ♠..♣6..♣2.. J Gerben42: so 13 imps to Onstein.. 7 tez: iyi akˆ amlar..♣5.. 6.. 9..♣4 2celik1: son board iyi aksamlar herkese tez: birazdan gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z champ i: kenan teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzus: thx fann4: ??.. 9 tez: hala amca hikayesi deˆ il..gerˆ§ekten ˆ§ok ˆ anssˆ‰zdˆ‰ bizim takˆ‰m wstuart: I think he cashed and the operator might have been behind..♣8 fann4: Declarer must have cashed the K in the end position. 2celik1: fena olmazdi hani.. 3.. 2 Gerben42: in the other room, Q was ducked by East followed by ♣ overtaken with A, cash ♣ honors and a finesse - East got in with K and must play ♠ to the remaining H! tez: iki yarˆ‰ daha var.. K.. A tez: gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z..♠4..♠J Gerben42: excellent unblock by Simon de Wijs.. Q..♣J MolvaM: 25 dk sonra bekleriz.. 5..♣3.. T.. J.. ♠8.. 5 2celik1: tesekkurler tum arkadaslara MolvaM: 3. devre saat 16da vugraphzus: iyi akˆ amlar herkese..♣7..♣Q.. 6.. 8 tez: teˆ ekkˆ…rler..byee tez: onlar ˆ§ok iyi..kabul Gerben42: as I said, other room East opened 1 so the position was known..♣9..♣A vugraphzus: thanks all Gerben42: excellent play and excellent defense Gerben42: 75 minutes break vugraphzus: yes © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 26 -